We recently got a query for a 2000-page book. Yup, all those zeros are for real. But the author wanted to make sure that we didn’t discriminate based on the length because this book was really good.
Unfortunately, it doesn’t matter how good a book is when it’s that long. It’s just not financially feasible – we can’t charge more than $7.99 for a mass-market in the current marketplace, and a book with 2000 pages would simply cost more in printing than profit, no matter how well it sold.
Astute writers may have noticed that those word-count requirements have been changing over the last several years in companies across the board. I did a quick look at breakevens (an Excel spread sheet where we plug in projected variables and try to figure out how much money the book makes in royalties and profit) for the last few years. Paper costs went up about 25% from ’06 to ’08, and the next few years aren’t likely to reverse the trend. The only way to make up that difference is either shorter books or higher prices.
Most manuscripts I get these days from published authors are probably closer to the 80,000- to 85,000-word mark, which is a good target for newer authors to keep in mind.
March 12, 2009 at 8:42 pm
So, are we talking 80K – 85K in computer wordcount or traditional wordcount?
Someone publishers are going to computer wordcount, just wondering what’s Dorchester’s position.
Thanks,
Sandy
March 13, 2009 at 5:36 am
2,000 pages? Ouch. That is one serious wordcount!
Interesting, but not surprising. With the cost of everything rising, I can totally see smaller books for awhile. The question is … will that page count ever rise again once the economy stablizes?
I used to joke with hubby about the price of gas when it began to rise of $1.00 and everyone was bitching – big time. I told him outright that it was going to go to $2.00 and more (easily) and that when it drops to $1.50 no one is gonna bitch because they’ll be happy with it at $1.50. Its so true right now.
March 13, 2009 at 8:26 am
Sandy – excellent question. I generally use the computer word count as a rough guide, basically just to let me know if we’re in the right ballpark. But it’s really not just word count that affects the size of the book–and I’m glad you brought it up because I should have mentioned it in the post. Having short chapters–and therefore a lot of them–makes for a longer book. Also, short paragraphs and/or lots of dialogue won’t necessarily raise any red flags in the word count but can definitely stretch out those pages.
I’m not saying don’t have short chapters or lots of quick dialogue. I think both are great pacing techniques, but it’s something to be aware of. Our Production Dept. can always tweak font size (though I hate, hate, hate small type!) or finangle things in number of different ways once the book itself is as tight as possible.
March 13, 2009 at 10:34 am
How in the world did someone keep a plot thread going for 2000 pages in one book? And what about pacing??? Besides the cost factor to print said book, or the need for a super magnifier to read the font required…
Leah, although I use computer word count, I never thought about short chapters and lots of dialogue as causing the need for extra pages in the printing process. Good to know.
March 13, 2009 at 12:40 pm
I am currently working on a paranormal humorous romance with lots of short chapters. But I just figure that if a publisher wants me to combine some to make longer chapters, they’ll ask me to. I’d hate to think that the book would be turned down just for such a small, fixable issue. (It’s only going to end up being 80,000-85,000 words anyway.) Do you ever ask people to change such things?
March 13, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Deborah – a book won’t be turned down as long as it’s reasonably within the stated word-count requirements (and well-written, of course). I think the Dorchester website lists 80,000-90,000 or maybe even 95,000.
I just bought a historical from a debut author that’s around the 105,000 mark. There are a few spots that can stand some trimming, so we’ll do our best to get it down. But there’s no way to cut it to 85,000 without taking away part of its appeal. It might mean a slightly smaller font for the finished book or a higher page count than Production wants for a new author, or that Sales will decide to charge a dollar more (unlikely, but possible) but the length isn’t insurmountable.
The reason I let folks know now is so they don’t have to worry about that cutting in the future. Some publishers have now gone from 80,000 to 65,000. So keep an eye on those guidelines when sending around submissions.
March 13, 2009 at 6:28 pm
This actually comes as a relief to me. Pal agent/author Lois Winston told me to aim for 90,000 words, minimum 85,000. And I’m at 77,000 and running out of outline
So the fact that shorter might turn out to be better is a load off my mind!
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